What not to do that you're concernedThink again

At the end of a meeting with the representatives of the Ministry of labour and the unions, Eric Besson is committed yesterday to conduct an assessment of the implementation of the circular of November 24, 2009, on the regulation on professional grounds of employees declared undocumented. "This report will be designed to measure the homogeneity of the implementation of the circular by the prefectures," stated the Minister of Immigration. "If the gaps are too big, we can proceed to potential adjustments", stated yesterday his entourage. Something judged insufficient by the CGT, which seeks a new appointment and quick measures taking into account specificities of the sectors of activity concerned. Employer representatives - in particular the association Ethic n ' have not been attending yesterday's meeting. Pascal Decary, Director of HR for Veolia cleanliness and member of the national Union of the activities of the waste, has agreed to speak on this delicate subject for employers.

Why are you invested in the record of the regularization of undocumented workers

One of our agencies of the Ile-de-France region has been occupied, now two years ago, by holders of a temporary employment agency workers of forged papers. We found, on this occasion, that we use without the knowledge of the employees with false papers. It could be for us to dismiss employees which we were also pleased with this. They have committed no fault in their work, they have benefited from training and they pay their taxes and their contributions. Our work has therefore been to do everything to keep them and our social responsibility has been to try to accompany them in their efforts of administrative control by work. In addition, we are an international group and how we deal with our foreign employees in France has an impact on the eye that covers the company all of our employees around the world, as well as on our reputation abroad.

Why are you disputing the current system

The circular issued in November 2009 is, as the previous, not applied in the same way of one employee to another because its interpretation varies depending on the prefectures. However businesses need clear criteria regulation to ensure fairness of treatment. In Veolia cleanliness as in other companies of management and treatment of waste, it seems essential. It is for this that we have decided, as well as Ethic, work on a common approach with the CGT to apply criteria clear regulation of the false papers or undocumented migrants, and we wanted to be part of the discussions from start with the Department of Immigration and the Ministry of labour.

Your staff is not qualified. What not to do that you're concerned

Think again. This issue is any type of employment, any type of salary. You will also find graduate employees who are in illegal and declared. If, tomorrow, all undocumented migrants or false-paper stopped working, good number of sectors of activity may have difficulties in operation.

How do you explain that very few employers have taken position

My personal feeling is that the subject is taboo. I received a lot of shots of wire of support but there is a diffuse fear to be indicted if it is officially on the subject. It also explains the reluctance of some employers to issue the necessary documents to labour regularization. I speak here of rogue bosses, who do mostly not that situation clarifies to continue to exploit workers without papers.

You do not believe in the strengthening of sanctions provided for in the Besson Bill

The fact is that all employers are treated in the same way. No distinction is made between those who does not declare their employees and those who report, which, as we employ without knowledge of employees with false papers and who are willing to formalize them, and rogue bosses.

That you reply to those who say that facilitate labour regularization would encourage illegal immigration

On the contrary, fight against social dumping, and rogue bosses to enact clear criteria for regularisation through labour to facilitate the procedure. Therefore, it will help everyone, employees, businesses, administration, out from the top.